biden had been meeting today with let's say joe manchin n.r.a. backed senator from west virginia or john dingell n.r.a. backed from michigan and groups pro gun, maybe they're going to try to do a big deal, maybe try to do something comprehensive, but it looks like and certainly sounded like from the president from his tone and the press conference today that he recognizes it's not likely that the measure has the votes to get through congress and he's going to do what he can and do it his own way. >> megyn: what do you expect that to mean? he talked about it a little today. he didn't go to the controversial place. but it didn't sound like something's really going to upset the gun lobby in the way na, you know, high capacity magazine restrictions would upset them or extensive background checks would upset them. >> well, we don't know what the vice-president -- could be as soon as today that the vice-president hands over his recommendations to the president. we don't know what all is in there. and certainly the vice-president was very enthusiastic a